Annotation of wikisrc/users/schmonz/pkgsrccon2014.mdwn, revision 1.5

1.3       schmonz     1: # Attendees
                      2: 
                      3: * Calum
                      4: * Youri
                      5: * `abs`
                      6: * `justin`
                      7: * `jaapb`
                      8: * `alnsn`
                      9: * Sevan
                     10: * `bsiegert`
                     11: * `mlelstv`
                     12: * `tron`
                     13: * `spz`
                     14: * `prlw1`
                     15: * `wiedi`
                     16: * ???
                     17: * `sborrill`
                     18: * `morr`
                     19: 
1.1       schmonz    20: # Saturday
                     21: 
1.4       schmonz    22: ## Benny Siegert: "BulkTracker"
1.2       schmonz    23: 
1.4       schmonz    24: * [BulkTracker](http://bulktracker.appspot.com) is WIP to parse
1.2       schmonz    25:   `pkgsrc-bulk` reports and present them in an organized way
                     26: * Uses lots of trendy stuff:
                     27:     * Google App Engine
                     28:     * Ruby, Node.js, Twitter Bootstrap
                     29:     * side comment: pkgsrc is missing some trendy stuff
                     30: * [Source code](http://github.com/bsiegert/bulktracker)
1.1       schmonz    31: 
1.3       schmonz    32: ## Side discussion with Youri and Calum
                     33: 
                     34: * how can we induce people to choose pkgsrc over Homebrew?
                     35:     * most people are looking for an OS-specific package manager
                     36:     * they don't realize they should look for cross-platform
                     37:     * I've learned that I should
                     38:     * we need to attract OS X users on their own terms
                     39:         * what if we managed /Applications, from source or not?
                     40:     * likewise for other platforms
                     41:     * what if we branded pkgsrc differently for each platform?
                     42:     * also concentrate on binary package experience
                     43:     * `pkgin` is a real nice user experience
                     44: * how are people finding their OS X binary packages?
                     45:     * screenshots they post on [/r/unixporn](http://www.reddit.com/r/unixporn)
                     46: 
1.5     ! schmonz    47: ## Lightning talks
        !            48: 
        !            49: ### David Brownlee: "Pretty tabular data without much effort"
        !            50: 
        !            51: * jQuery
        !            52: * [example](http://www.netbsd.org/~wiz/perl.html)
        !            53: * see also <http://sync.absd.org/www>
        !            54: 
        !            55: ### Youri Mouton: pkgsrc for new developers
        !            56: 
        !            57: * used NetBSD and `pkgin` without knowing what pkgsrc was
        !            58: * saw `pkgin` supported on other OSes (e.g., Minix)
        !            59: * and OS X (a main OS he uses)
        !            60: * started manually making packages for `pkgin`, not realizing
        !            61: * _then_ understood it was pkgsrc being used to make packages
        !            62: * a few months doing bulk builds
        !            63: * there isn't a tutorial on how to start as a pkgsrc developer
        !            64: * submitted ports to pkgsrc-wip
        !            65: * people usually find MacPorts, Homebrew, Fink, and _then_ maybe `pkgin`
        !            66: * this is too bad, they ought to be finding us
        !            67: * Youri and Calum's project: <http://saveosx.org>
        !            68:     * they're doing gpg-signed packages
        !            69: * people ask "where can I find documentation" and there isn't a great answer
        !            70: * writing clear, clean docs for new users and developers would be great
        !            71: * we all think jperkin's writeups and docs on this are terrific
        !            72:     * can we have them?
        !            73: * tron: bootstrap experience for MacPorts may be nicer
        !            74:     * schmonz: should be possible to build a Mac `.pkg` from bootstrap
        !            75: * abs: three target demographics:
        !            76:     * use binary packages
        !            77:     * build from source, use options, don't want to fix things
        !            78:     * developers
        !            79: * this underscores the need for user-editable wiki
        !            80: * design patterns for pkgsrc: e.g., how to fetch from a certain git commit
        !            81: * hey, let's take some time as a group and merge `pkgsrc.org` into
        !            82:     `wiki.n.o/pkgsrc/`
        !            83: 
        !            84: ### Jaap Boender: OCaml
        !            85: 
        !            86: ### Matthias Scheler: world's best ISP
        !            87: 
        !            88: ## Me: "pkgsrc design ideas"
        !            89: 
1.1       schmonz    90: # Sunday
                     91: 
                     92: [[!meta title="pkgsrcCon 2014: notes and scratchings"]]

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