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Ideally, all versions of Xen in pkgsrc would build on all versions of |
Ideally, all versions of Xen in pkgsrc would build on all versions of |
NetBSD on both i386 and amd64. However, that isn't the case. Besides |
NetBSD on both i386 and amd64. However, that isn't the case. Besides |
aging code and aging compilers, qemu (included in xentools for HVM |
aging code and aging compilers, qemu (included in xentools for HVM |
support) is difficult to build. The following are known to fail: |
support) is difficult to build. The following are known to work or FAIL: |
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xenkernel3 netbsd-6 i386 |
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xentools42 netbsd-6 i386 |
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The following are known to work: |
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xenkernel3 netbsd-5 amd64 |
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xentools3 netbsd-5 amd64 |
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xentools3=hvm netbsd-5 amd64 ???? |
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xenkernel33 netbsd-5 amd64 |
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xentools33 netbsd-5 amd64 |
xenkernel41 netbsd-5 amd64 |
xenkernel41 netbsd-5 amd64 |
xentools41 netbsd-5 amd64 |
xentools41 netbsd-5 amd64 |
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xenkernel42 netbsd-5 amd64 |
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xentools42 netbsd-5 amd64 |
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xenkernel3 netbsd-6 i386 FAIL |
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xentools3 netbsd-6 i386 |
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xentools3-hvm netbsd-6 i386 FAIL (dependencies fail) |
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xenkernel33 netbsd-6 i386 |
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xentools33 netbsd-6 i386 |
xenkernel41 netbsd-6 i386 |
xenkernel41 netbsd-6 i386 |
xentools41 netbsd-6 i386 |
xentools41 netbsd-6 i386 |
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xenkernel42 netbsd-6 i386 |
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xentools42 netbsd-6 i386 *MIXED |
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(all 3 and 33 seem to FAIL) |
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xenkernel41 netbsd-7 i386 |
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xentools41 netbsd-7 i386 |
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xenkernel42 netbsd-7 i386 |
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xentools42 netbsd-7 i386 ??FAIL |
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(*On netbsd-6 i386, there is a xentools42 in the 2014Q3 official builds, |
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but it does not build for gdt.) |
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NetBSD as a dom0 |
NetBSD as a dom0 |
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This section describes general concepts about domUs. It does not |
This section describes general concepts about domUs. It does not |
address specific domU operating systems or how to install them. The |
address specific domU operating systems or how to install them. The |
config files for domUs are typically in /usr/pkg/etc/xen, and are |
config files for domUs are typically in /usr/pkg/etc/xen, and are |
typically named so that the file anme, domU name and the domU's host |
typically named so that the file name, domU name and the domU's host |
name match. |
name match. |
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The domU is provided with cpu and memory by Xen, configured by the |
The domU is provided with cpu and memory by Xen, configured by the |
Line 856 NetBSD as a domU in a VPS
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Line 875 NetBSD as a domU in a VPS
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The bulk of the HOWTO is about using NetBSD as a dom0 on your own |
The bulk of the HOWTO is about using NetBSD as a dom0 on your own |
hardware. This section explains how to deal with Xen in a domU as a |
hardware. This section explains how to deal with Xen in a domU as a |
virtual private server where you do not control or have access to the |
virtual private server where you do not control or have access to the |
dom0. |
dom0. This is not intended to be an exhaustive list of VPS providers; |
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only a few are mentioned that specifically support NetBSD. |
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VPS operators provide varying degrees of access and mechanisms for |
VPS operators provide varying degrees of access and mechanisms for |
configuration. The big issue is usually how one controls which kernel |
configuration. The big issue is usually how one controls which kernel |
is booted, because the kernel is nominally in the dom0 filesystem (to |
is booted, because the kernel is nominally in the dom0 filesystem (to |
which VPS users do not normally have acesss). |
which VPS users do not normally have acesss). A second issue is how |
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to install NetBSD. |
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A VPS user may want to compile a kernel for security updates, to run |
A VPS user may want to compile a kernel for security updates, to run |
npf, run IPsec, or any other reason why someone would want to change |
npf, run IPsec, or any other reason why someone would want to change |
their kernel. |
their kernel. |
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One approach is to have an adminstrative interface to upload a kernel, |
One approach is to have an adminstrative interface to upload a kernel, |
or to select from a prepopulated list. Other approaches are py-grub |
or to select from a prepopulated list. Other approaches are pygrub |
(deprecated) and pvgrub, which are ways to have a bootloader obtain a |
(deprecated) and pvgrub, which are ways to have a bootloader obtain a |
kernel from the domU filesystem. This is closer to a regular physical |
kernel from the domU filesystem. This is closer to a regular physical |
computer, where someone who controls a machine can replace the kernel. |
computer, where someone who controls a machine can replace the kernel. |
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py-grub |
pygrub |
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py-grub runs in the dom0 and looks into the domU filesystem. This |
pygrub runs in the dom0 and looks into the domU filesystem. This |
implies that the domU must have a kernel in a filesystem in a format |
implies that the domU must have a kernel in a filesystem in a format |
known to py-grub. As of 2014, py-grub seems to be of mostly historical interest. |
known to pygrub. As of 2014, pygrub seems to be of mostly historical |
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interest. |
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pvgrub |
pvgrub |
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calls. It is booted from the dom0 as the domU kernel, and then reads |
calls. It is booted from the dom0 as the domU kernel, and then reads |
/grub/menu.lst and loads a kernel from the domU filesystem. |
/grub/menu.lst and loads a kernel from the domU filesystem. |
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[prgmr.com](http://prgmr.com/) uses this approach to let users choose |
[Panix](http://www.panix.com/) lets users use pvgrub. Panix reports |
their own operating system and kernel. See then [prgmr.com NetBSD |
that pvgrub works with FFsv2 with 16K/2K and 32K/4K block/frag sizes |
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(and hence with defaults from "newfs -O 2"). See [Panix's pvgrub |
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page](http://www.panix.com/v-colo/grub.html), which describes only |
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Linux but should be updated to cover NetBSD :-) |
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[prgmr.com](http://prgmr.com/) also lets users with pvgrub to boot |
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their own kernel. See then [prgmr.com NetBSD |
HOWTO](http://wiki.prgmr.com/mediawiki/index.php/NetBSD_as_a_DomU). |
HOWTO](http://wiki.prgmr.com/mediawiki/index.php/NetBSD_as_a_DomU). |
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Typically one has an ext2 or FAT partition for the kernel, so that |
It appears that [grub's FFS |
grub can understand it, which leads to /netbsd not being the actual |
code](http://xenbits.xensource.com/hg/xen-unstable.hg/file/bca284f67702/tools/libfsimage/ufs/fsys_ufs.c) |
kernel. One must remember to update the special boot partiion. |
does not support all aspects of modern FFS, but there are also reports |
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that FFSv2 works fine. At prgmr, typically one has an ext2 or FAT |
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partition for the kernel with the intent that grub can understand it, |
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which leads to /netbsd not being the actual kernel. One must remember |
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to update the special boot partiion. |
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Amazon |
Amazon |
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TODO: explain how to compile npf into a custom kernel, answering (but |
TODO: explain how to compile npf into a custom kernel, answering (but |
note that the problem was caused by not booting the right kernel): |
note that the problem was caused by not booting the right kernel): |
http://mail-index.netbsd.org/netbsd-users/2014/12/26/msg015576.html |
http://mail-index.netbsd.org/netbsd-users/2014/12/26/msg015576.html |
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TODO items for improving NetBSD/xen |
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* Package Xen 4.4. |
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* Get PCI passthrough working on Xen 4.2 (or 4.4). |
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* Get pvgrub into pkgsrc, either via xentools or separately. |
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* grub |
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* Check/add support to pkgsrc grub2 for UFS2 and arbitrary |
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fragsize/blocksize (UFS2 support may be present; the point is to |
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make it so that with any UFS1/UFS2 filesystem setup that works |
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with NetBSD grub will also work). |
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See [pkg/40258](http://gnats.netbsd.org/40258). |
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* Push patches upstream. |
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* Get UFS2 patches into pvgrub. |
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* Add support for PV ops to a version of /boot, and make it usable as |
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a kernel in Xen, similar to pvgrub. |