NetBSD/sun3 Frequently Asked Questions
-NetBSD/sun3 Frequently Asked Questions
-General Questions
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- No multicast or IPv6 - "le0: not multicast capable" -
- Running diskless 3/80 with ESP driver - "esp: SCSI bus reset." -
- SunOS 4.1 Compatibility -
- Booting SCSI devices at different targets -
- History of NetBSD/sun3x -
Other sources of information
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- SunHELP -
- Sun Hardware Reference FAQ -
- Sun NVRAM/Hostid FAQ -
- Sun CD-ROM FAQ -
- NetBSD 6.0 install notes -
- port-sun3 mailing list -
- Diskless NetBSD HOW-TO -
- Sun3 Archive -
- Techrat's Sun 3/160 pages -
- General NetBSD Documentation -
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General Questions
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-No multicast or IPv6 - "le0: not multicast capable
" (top)
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- The LANCE revision C chips used in - some sun3s (not the sun3x) have a bug which sometimes results in garbage - inserted where the first bits should be, with the correct bits shifted later. So - instead of the destination MAC address at the beginning, you get something - random looking.
-The workaround is to examine the beginning of the packet and throw away - anything that's not for us (my MAC or broadcast). Unfortunately this prevents - the use of multicast.
-The LANCE Rev. C chip was probably only used in the 3/50, so on other sun3 - machines you should be able to build a - kernel without the line:
-options LANCE_REVC_BUG- -
-Running diskless 3/80 with ESP driver - "esp: SCSI bus reset."
(top)
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- - This message is a symptom of a bug in the - esp driver on diskless systems. The ESP (Emulex SCSI Processor) driver in - NetBSD/sun3x has a bug that causes it to enter an endless loop when it probes an - empty SCSI bus. To work around this problem, use a kernel which does not have - the esp device driver, or plug in at least one powered SCSI device into the bus.
- --SunOS 4.1 Compatibility (top) -
-NetBSD/Sun3 features extensive binary compatibility with SunOS 4.1.x - programs. Static SunOS executables will run without any extra setup.
-To run dynamic executables, you'll need to provide the dynamic libraries that - came with your SunOS installation. SunOS programs that will - not work include those that use the SunOS kvm library, - certain (low-level) disk manipulation utilities, and programs making explicit - use of Sun's STREAMS subsystem. Check the compat_sunos(8) manual page - for more details.
- --Booting SCSI devices at different targets (top) -
- All sun3 and sun3x monitors support booting from SCSI devices. Most users
- will be familiar with booting from the monitor device sd(0,0,0)
,
- which they know means booting the SCSI disk at target zero. However, determining
- the monitor device name for booting an arbitrary SCSI device can be confusing.
A monitor boot device takes the form
- dev(
cntrl,
unit,
part)
.
- dev is two letters, and cntrl,
- unit, and part are hexadecimal
- numbers.
For SCSI disks and CD-ROMs, dev is sd
. For
- SCSI tapes, dev is st
.
For all SCSI devices, cntrl is the number of the SCSI
- controller the device is attached to. For a machine with a single SCSI
- controller, cntrl is 0
.
For all SCSI devices, unit identifies the SCSI target - and logical unit number of the device. Exactly how the SCSI target and logical - unit number are combined into the single number unit - depends on your machine type and ROM revision, and whether or not the device is - a disk, CD-ROM, or tape. Use the tables below to figure out how - unit works on your machine.
- For SCSI disks and CD-ROMs, part selects the partition
- to boot on that disk or CD-ROM. The first partition is 0
, the
- second partition is 1
, etc. Normally, part is
- 0
, since the first partition on a disk is usually the bootable
- one. Common exceptions are booting a miniroot that has been written to the swap
- partition, in which case part is 1
, or booting
- a CD-ROM that contains different bootable partitions for different
- architectures, in which case you have to know which partition boots your
- architecture.
For SCSI tapes, part selects the tape segment (also
- called "tape file") to boot. The first tape segment is 0
, the
- second tape segment is 1
, etc. You will need to know which tape
- segment is bootable for your architecture in order to give the right
- part.
Finally, these are the tables that demonstrate how unit
- works on various machines. They list sd
monitor devices for disks
- and CD-ROMs, and st
monitor devices for tapes, all at different
- SCSI targets. These tables assume that you want the first SCSI controller
- 0
, and the first partition or first tape segment
- 0
. Also, because many Sun 3 models use the same CPU board, to keep
- these tables simple Sun's CPU board code names are used wherever possible.
Model | -CPU | -Model | -CPU | -
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3/75 | -- Carrera - | -3/140 | -- Carrera - | -
3/150 | -- Carrera - | -3/160 | -- Carrera - | -
3/180 | -- Carrera - | -- | - |
- -
CPU/rev ROM | -Monitor device to - boot the disk or CD-ROM at target | -|||||||
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0 | -1 | -2 | -3 | -4 | -5 | -6 | -7 | -|
3/60 rev 1.9 Carrera rev 2.7 | -
- sd(0,0,0)
- |
-
- sd(0,4,0)
- |
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- sd(0,8,0)
- |
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- sd(0,C,0)
- |
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- sd(0,10,0)
- |
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- sd(0,14,0)
- |
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- sd(0,18,0)
- |
-N/A | -
3/80 rev 2.9.2 | -
- sd(0,0,0)
- |
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- sd(0,8,0)
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- sd(0,10,0)
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- sd(0,18,0)
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- sd(0,20,0)
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- sd(0,28,0)
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- sd(0,30,0)
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-N/A | -
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CPU/rev ROM | -Monitor device to - boot the tape at target | -|||||||
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0 | -1 | -2 | -3 | -4 | -5 | -6 | -7 | -|
3/60 rev 1.9 | -??? | -
- st(0,8,0)
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- st(0,10,0)
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- st(0,18,0)
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- st(0,0,0)
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- st(0,28,0)
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- st(0,30,0)
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-N/A | -
3/80 rev 2.9.2 | -??? | -
- st(0,8,0)
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- st(0,10,0)
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- st(0,18,0)
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- st(0,0,0)
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- st(0,28,0)
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- st(0,30,0)
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-N/A | -
The above tables also assume that you want SCSI logical unit number zero. The - SCSI specification allows one SCSI target to contain different logical units - (also called LUNs). Virtually no SCSI devices make use of this feature, and have - only a single LUN, zero. However, if you know you have a disk at a LUN other - than zero (early Sun SCSI disk setups do), you can add the LUN number to the - unit value, noting that unit is a - hexadecimal number.
- --History of NetBSD/sun3x (top) -
-The sun3x port of NetBSD was initiated by two independent groups of - developers. The first group, headed by Gordon Ross and Jeremy Cooper, began work - in March of 1996 with the (then) current sun3 port and the intent to create a - new pmap system that was not based on the hp300 m68k code. Their work is the - officially supported version of NetBSD/sun3x.
-The second group, headed by Tsubai Masanari, also began with the sun3 - distribution but instead choose to use the traditional hp300 m68k pmap. This - approach allowed them to get a fully running system in a matter of weeks. They - were the first to successfully integrate the SPARC Enhanced SCSI Processor - driver into the kernel, proving that the Sun3x was indeed half SPARC, half Sun3.
-Although the currently supported NetBSD/sun3x is based on Gordon and Jeremy's - work, they are indebted to the second group for their innovation.
-Between NetBSD 1.3 and 1.4 NetBSD/sun3x was merged into NetBSD/sun3. They - build separate kernels, but share the same userland, and kernel build tree. -
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Other sources of information
--SunHELP (top) -
-- - SunHELP - much - sun related information -
-Sun Hardware Reference FAQ (top) -
-- - Sun - Hardware Reference FAQ - overview of Sun hardware - over the years -
-Sun NVRAM/Hostid FAQ (top) -
-- - Sun NVRAM/Hostid FAQ - if your machine PROM's battery has gone dead -
-Sun CD-ROM FAQ (top) -
-- - Sun - CD-ROM FAQ - lists which CD-ROM drives can boot a - Sun -
-NetBSD 6.0 install notes (top) -
-- - NetBSD 6.0 install notes - supported hardware and how to install. -
-port-sun3 mailing list (top) -
-- - port-sun3 mailing list - - if you have any additional questions please subscribe. -
-Diskless NetBSD HOW-TO (top) -
- - --Sun3 Archive (top) -
-- - The Sun3 Archive has lots of - information about Sun3 hardware, PROM images, etc. -
-Techrat's Sun 3/160 pages (top) -
-- - Techrat's Sun 3/160 - pages contains information on Techrat's 3/160, hardware information, - lots of pictures of old Sun hardware, and links to various FAQs and - things. -
-General NetBSD Documentation (top) -
-- - General NetBSD Documentation - - for questions not specific to NetBSD/sun3. -
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