--- wikisrc/gitsofar.mdwn	2015/02/01 02:30:33	1.2
+++ wikisrc/gitsofar.mdwn	2017/09/22 10:37:52	1.7
@@ -22,6 +22,12 @@ git is slow during 'status' by default s
 change.  It will produce a warning with tunable options if the command runs
 slowly.
 
+*Update*
+
+After some complaining on the git@ mailing list a patch has been produced which
+drops the memory requirements down quite a bit.  I can now, without much tuning,
+work on my 512 system.
+
 ### CVS in parallel
 
 I do not think this is a good idea and do not plan to advocate for it.
@@ -37,17 +43,21 @@ See above for CVS server provided if ong
 
 ### existing cvs dependencies
 
-TBD
+is there a list of these?  build systems?
+The entire build infrastructure of NetBSD should (even without giti) change into a "jobs"-oriented workflow instead of a "server"-oriented workflow.
+
+Very recent (summer 2017) events have shown that the ability to move things around is very important.
+
 
 ### How should NetBSD be setup
 
 High level- private box for write master using ssh, any number of additional
 systems with read-only mirrors over http:// and git://
 
-Also see a great description of how DragonflyBSD is setup:
-[dfbsd server setup](http://lists.dragonflybsd.org/pipermail/users/2015-January/207421.html)
-[dfbsd workflows](http://lists.dragonflybsd.org/pipermail/users/2015-January/207422.html)
-[dfbsd config](http://lists.dragonflybsd.org/pipermail/users/2015-January/207424.html)
+Also see a great description of how DragonflyBSD is setup:<br>
+[dfbsd server setup](http://lists.dragonflybsd.org/pipermail/users/2015-January/207421.html)<br>
+[dfbsd workflows](http://lists.dragonflybsd.org/pipermail/users/2015-January/207422.html)<br>
+[dfbsd config](http://lists.dragonflybsd.org/pipermail/users/2015-January/207424.html)<br>
 
 ### how to install
 
@@ -74,12 +84,12 @@ for a friendly developer to add as an or
 
 ### log message formats
 
-Try to references named branches instead of sha-1's
+Try to references named branches/tags instead of sha-1's
 Also using the dates for commits instead of commit id's
 
 ### how to convert
 
-ESR?
+https://github.com/netbsd/
 
 ### No lock-in
 
@@ -89,8 +99,26 @@ Don't do anything weird like change hist
 Maybe when we have 30 years of project history it will be time to consider
 restructuring the project.  :)
 
+git is the most widely used VCS ever so it has the best chance of conversion tools existing.
+No future tool will be able to exist without a git-conversion script.
+
+---
+
+I think this is less a function of the tool and more a function of the project not
+allowing non-"standard" actions.
+
 ### Who, When, and How Long?
 
-* ESR/Joerg - convert
+* ESR/IIJ/Joerg - convert
 * sometime, eventually, maybe
-* unknown
+* assumptions/proposal:
+
+Assuming conversion starting from date(x) to freeze(y) is relatively easy, the
+refinements of Joerg/ESR conversion can continue to run in read-only mode as they
+do today.  This means the "switch" is a few hours only for:
+
+1. cvs goes read only
+2. history from last git conversion pull until now is appended
+3. cvs is turned off
+4. git is made available over ssh
+